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Belgian Brothers in Christ

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And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things." - Matthew 28:18-20

Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so. Therefore many of them became believers, and so did not a few of the reputable Greek women and of the men. - Acts of the apostles 17:11-12

But he who guarantees that you and we belong to Christ and he who has anointed us is God. He has also put his seal upon us and has given us the token of what is to come, that is, the spirit, in our hearts. - 2Corinthians 1:21-22
I say, then, to you, Everyone that confesses union with me before men, the Son of man will also confess union with him before the angels of God." - Luke 12:8

"Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls. For my yoke is kindly and my load is light. - Matthew 11:29-30

However, become doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves with false reasoning. For if anyone is a hearer of the word, and not a doer, this one is like a man looking at his natural face in a mirror. For he looks at himself, and off he goes and immediately forgets what sort of man he is. But he who peers into the perfect law that belongs to freedom and who persists in [it], this [man], because he has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, will be happy in his doing [it]. - James 1:22-25

I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry. - 2 Timothy 4:1-5


And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. - Matthew 24:14



En Jezus trad naderbij en sprak tot hen, en zei: "Alle autoriteit in de hemel en op aarde is mij gegeven. Gaat daarom en maakt discipelen van mensen uit alle natiën, hen dopende in de naam van de Vader en van de Zoon en van de heilige geest, en leert hun onderhouden alles wat ik U geboden heb. En ziet! ik ben met U alle dagen tot het besluit van het samenstel van dingen." - Mattheüs 28:18-20

De laatsten nu waren edeler van geest dan die in ThessaloniÌika, want zij namen het woord met de grootste bereidwilligheid des geestes aan en onderzochten dagelijks zorgvuldig de Schriften of deze dingen zo waren. Velen van hen werden dan ook gelovigen, evenals niet weinigen van de achtenswaardige Griekse vrouwen en van de mannen. - Handelingen der apostelen17:11-12

Doch hij die waarborgt dat gij en wij Christus toebehoren en hij die ons heeft gezalfd, is God. Hij heeft ook zijn zegel op ons gedrukt en ons in ons hart het onderpand van wat komen zal gegeven, namelijk de geest. - 2 Korinthiërs 1:21-22

Wordt echter daders van het woord en niet alleen hoorders, door uzelf met valse overleggingen te bedriegen. Want indien iemand een hoorder van het woord is en geen dader, dan gelijkt zo iemand op een man die zijn natuurlijke aangezicht in een spiegel bekijkt. Want hij bekijkt zich en gaat dan weg en vergeet prompt wat voor een mens hij is. Wie daarentegen tuurt in de volmaakte wet, die tot de vrijheid behoort, en daarbij blijft, die zal, omdat hij geen vergeetachtig hoorder maar een dader van het werk is geworden, gelukkig zijn doordat hij [het] doet. - Jakobus 1:22-25

Ik zeg U dan: Belijdt iemand voor de mensen dat hij in eendracht met mij is, dan zal ook de Zoon des mensen voor de engelen van God belijden in eendracht met hem te zijn. - Lukas 12:8

Ik gelast u plechtig voor het aangezicht van God en Christus Jezus, die de levenden en de doden zal oordelen, en krachtens zijn manifestatie en zijn koninkrijk: predik het woord, houd u er als met een dringende zaak mee bezig, in gunstige tijd, in moeilijke tijd, wijs terecht, berisp, vermaan, met alle lankmoedigheid en [kunst van] onderwijzen. Want er zal een tijdsperiode komen dat zij de gezonde leer niet zullen verdragen, maar zich overeenkomstig hun eigen begeerten tal van leraren zullen bijeenbrengen om hun oren te laten kittelen; en zij zullen hun oren van de waarheid afwenden en zich daarentegen tot onware verhalen keren. Houdt gij echter in alle dingen uw zinnen bij elkaar, lijd kwaad, doe [het] werk van een evangelieprediker, volbreng uw bediening ten volle. -2 Timotheüs 4:1-5

"Neemt mijn juk op U en leert van mij, want ik ben zachtaardig en ootmoedig van hart, en GIJ zult verkwikking vinden voor UW ziel. Want mijn juk is weldadig en mijn vracht is licht." - Mattheüs 11:29-30

En dit goede nieuws van het koninkrijk zal op de gehele bewoonde aarde worden gepredikt tot een getuigenis voor alle natiën, en dan zal het einde komen. - Mattheüs 24:14
Blog EntryJul 25, '09 8:27 AM
by Marcus for everyone
2 Peter 1:4: 

4For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent (A)promises, so that by them you may become (B)partakers of the divine nature, having (C)escaped the (D)corruption that is in (E)the world by lust.   (NASB)

The conservative Evangelical definition of the Trinity is the standard, the
orthodox doctrine. They are:

a.. Separate in person
b.. Equal in nature
c.. Submissive in duty

Nicene Creed of 325, which basically teaches that:

* the Son (Jesus) is God
* the Father is God
* the Holy Spirit is God -

yet -

* the Son (Jesus) is not the Father
* the Father is not the Holy Spirit
* the Holy Spirit is not the Son

All three persons distinct individuals, yet all equally God. They are of the
same substance (homoousia).

They are separate persons, all holding the position of being God, but one being.
There are three persons in one being.

There is also the Oneness trinity - which says that Jesus is God, and that Jesus
is also the Father. There are no distinct personages in the Oneness version.
Jesus is everything in that version.

The mistaken view is that there are three persons, but one person, for this
would be self-contradictory.

If Peter says that those with the heavely hope aquire such divine nature, does that mean that these individuals will be part of the godhead? How do trinitarians equate this scripture in relation to the godhead once those in heaven aquire this divine nature?

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marcusampe wrote on Jul 25, '09
Travelingman 1352 knows to tel us:

I did some looking up on that scripture and found some excerpts that hopefully you may find useful:

"In the Christian Greek Scriptures, certain words derived from the·osì (god) appear and relate to that which is divine. The related words theiìos, thei·oìtes, and the·oìtes occur at Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9, and 2 Peter 1:3, 4." (Insight Book; "Divine" pp.2)

"Finally, at 2 Peter 1:3, 4 the apostle shows that by virtue of "the precious and very grand promises" extended to faithful anointed Christians, they "may become sharers in divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world through lust." Elsewhere in the Scriptures, Christians are referred to as `sharing' with Christ in his sufferings, in a death like his, and in a resurrection like his to immortality as spirit creatures, becoming joint heirs with him in the heavenly Kingdom. (1Co 15:50-54; Php 3:10, 11; 1Pe 5:1; 2Pe 1:2-4; Re 20:6) Thus it is evident that the sharing of Christians in "divine nature" is a sharing with Christ in his glory." (Insight Book; "Divine" pp.8)

"Divine Nature. Also, there is a different nature belonging to those in heaven, spirit creatures of God. The apostle Peter speaks to his fellow Christians, spiritual brothers of Jesus Christ, of "the precious and very grand promises, that through these you may become sharers in divine nature [phyìse·os]." (2Pe 1:4) That this is a sharing with Christ in his glory as spirit persons, Peter shows in his first letter: "God . . . gave us a new birth [a·na·gen·neìsas he·masì, "having generated us again"] to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead to an incorruptible and undefiled and unfading inheritance. It is reserved in the heavens for you." (1Pe 1:3, 4) "Divine nature" requires a change in nature through death and resurrection, as made plain by the apostle Paul at First Corinthians chapter 15. He explains that the Christian must die and must be resurrected in a different body, a spiritual one, which requires a change.—1Co 15:36, 38, 44, 49, 51." (Insight Book; "Nature" pp.3)
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